Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/07/2003 09:01 AM Senate FIN

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     SENATE BILL NO. 100                                                                                                        
     "An Act  making capital  appropriations and reappropriations;                                                              
     capitalizing a fund; making appropriations under art. IX, sec.                                                             
     17(c),  Constitution   of  the  State  of  Alaska,   from  the                                                             
     constitutional  budget  reserve  fund;  and providing  for  an                                                             
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was the thirteenth hearing for this bill in the Senate Finance                                                             
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #8: This amendment is  outlined in a memorandum from Mike                                                             
Barton,  Commissioner,  Department  of  Transportation  and  Public                                                             
Facilities  to Cheryl Frasca,  Director, Office  of Management  and                                                             
Budget dated May 2, 2003, which reads as follows.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The  Department of  Transportation  and  Public Facilities  is                                                             
     requesting amendments to the  capital budget bills (HB 150 and                                                             
     SB 100) before the Legislature.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Rural Airport Projects                                                                                                     
     The Department  is requesting  the following changes  to rural                                                             
     airport capital projects:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Amend                                                                                                                      
     Chevak: Snow Removal Equipment Building                                                                                    
          Increase   from  $50,000  to  $200,000  federal   receipt                                                             
     authority. The cost to build this structure has increased over                                                             
     previous estimates. This amount is needed in addition to an FY                                                             
     03  appropriation  to  bring   the  total  estimated  cost  to                                                             
     $750,000.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Add                                                                                                                        
     Scammon Bay: Airport Snow Removal Equipment Building                                                                       
          $100,000  federal  receipts.   Reflects  revised  Airport                                                             
     Improvement  Program request.  This project  will upgrade  the                                                             
     Scammon Bay Snow Removal Equipment Building.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Statewide: Various Airport Snow Removal Equipment                                                                          
          $4,300,000  federal   receipts.  This  was  inadvertently                                                             
     omitted  from the Department's  original request. The  project                                                             
     provides federal authority to purchase new or replacement snow                                                             
     removal equipment at several rural airports.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Surface Transportation Projects                                                                                            
     The Department's  current AMATS  [Anchorage Metropolitan  Area                                                             
     Transportation Study] and  Surface Transportation requests are                                                             
     $68,734,000 and $416,092,600.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The  following  reductions  are  being  requested  to  various                                                             
     highway projects:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          ($39,906,000)     Over the  past  year there  has been  a                                                             
     decrease in the amount of federal fuel tax revenues collected,                                                             
     which  have caused a  corresponding reduction  in the  highway                                                             
     construction  program.  A reduction  in  specific projects  is                                                             
     being requested to reflect delays due to the decreased federal                                                             
     funding.                                                                                                                   
          ($48,125,000)       This   amendment   requests   project                                                             
     reductions where  the Department has determined  that adequate                                                             
     project authority  already exists to continue  work through FH                                                             
     04.                                                                                                                        
          ($1,205,000)    Also  being requested  is a reduction  in                                                             
     TRAAK [Trails  and Recreation  Access for Alaska]  projects to                                                             
     reflect a program allocation decrease.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The following additions are being requested:                                                                               
          $55,416,000   New  or increased federal project authority                                                             
     is  being requested  where scope  changes, funding  breakdown,                                                             
     updated estimates or priorities have changed.                                                                              
          $21,700,000    Project authority  is needed for  earmarks                                                             
     contained   within   the   recently   approved   congressional                                                             
     appropriation bill.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Finally, the amendment contains  the elimination of individual                                                             
     pavement and bridge projects and combines them into regionwide                                                             
     allocations.  This  will provide  the regions  flexibility  in                                                             
     determining  their greater  need, pavement  or bridge  repair.                                                             
     Similar  adjustments  are taking  place  for AMATS  and  FMATS                                                             
     [Fairbanks Metropolitan  Area Transportation Study]  projects.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The  net  effect  of  these  amendments   is  a  reduction  of                                                             
     $12,220,000   to   the  AMATS   and   Surface   Transportation                                                             
     appropriation  requests.  A spreadsheet  with  the changes  is                                                             
     attached [copy on file].                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken moved for the adoption of Amendment #8 and objected                                                             
for discussion. He shared that the Department of Transportation and                                                             
Public Facilities has submitted  this amendment as the result of an                                                             
expected decrease in FY 04 federal funding.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Amendment to Amendment #8: This amendment to the amendment proposes                                                             
to alter the funding  methodology regarding Anchorage  Metropolitan                                                             
Area  Transportation  Study  (AMATS)  and  Fairbanks   Metropolitan                                                             
Transportation Study (FMATS).                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  moved to amend Amendment  #8. He stated  that this                                                             
motion  is  in  response  to  Committee  questions   regarding  the                                                             
amendment's affect on AMATS and  FMATS. Furthermore, he stated that                                                             
the effective  date of June  30, 2003, as  referenced on  page two,                                                             
line eight of Amendment #8, should  be correctly identified as July                                                             
1, 2003. Co-Chair  Wilken objected to the motion in  order to allow                                                             
for further explanation.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
At Co-Chair Wilken's request, Senator B. Stevens explained that the                                                             
amendment  to  the  amendment  would  address   Committee  concerns                                                             
regarding proposed funding reductions to AMATS and FMATS. He stated                                                             
that upon  discussion with  the Department,  the determination  was                                                             
made to combine sections  of the budget pertaining  to pavement and                                                             
bridge refurbishment improvements and to divvy up that combined $46                                                             
million in  funding between  the National  Highway System  and non-                                                             
National  Highway   System  entities  also  referred   to  as  non-                                                             
Metropolitan  Planning   Organizations  (non-MPOs)   and  MPOs.  He                                                             
continued  that due  to the  uncertainty  of the  actual amount  of                                                             
federal funding that  would available, intent language  is included                                                             
to specify  that AMATS  would be allocated  its historical  funding                                                             
level of 27 percent and FMATS would be allocated 6.9 percent of the                                                             
forthcoming federal  funds. He stated  "this is a good  solution to                                                             
the issue," and he urged the Committee  to support the amendment to                                                             
the amendment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JEFF OTTESEN,  Acting Director,  Statewide Planning, Department  of                                                             
Transportation and  Public Facilities stated that the  amendment to                                                             
the amendment would compress the  three regional projects breakouts                                                             
into a single line item in the  budget. Subsequently, he continued,                                                             
the intent language would specify  that a pro-rata system, based on                                                             
the Statewide  Transportation Improvement  Plan (STIP) formula,  be                                                             
used to distribute money to the  MPOs. Therefore, he concluded, the                                                             
federal funds received by the State  would be "fairly" appropriated                                                             
to the non-MPOs and MPOs as these federal funds "rise and fall."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked whether the  intent language would negatively                                                             
affect the  flexibility of the  Department to allocate  funding and                                                             
potentially jeopardize construction  projects that might incur cost                                                             
overruns in either Fairbanks or Anchorage.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ottesen responded  that MPOs are allocated a specific  quantity                                                             
of money  to manage. He  stated that were  a project to incur  cost                                                             
overruns, the MPO could shift funding to it. However, he noted that                                                             
by doing so,  the MPO might be  required to delay another  project.                                                             
Additionally, he noted that historically,  when large projects have                                                             
incurred  cost overruns,  MPOs  have submitted  additional  funding                                                             
requests to the State. He communicated that, on occasion, the State                                                             
has awarded additional monies to the MPO.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed his objection to the motion.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
There being  no further  objection, Amendment  #8, as amended,  was                                                             
ADOPTED.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #10:  This amendment deletes  the "Alaska Boating  Safety                                                             
(ED [Election District] 99)" component and the $720,000 other funds                                                             
appropriation from the Department  of Natural Resources on page 27,                                                             
lines 15 and 16.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  moved for adoption  of Amendment #10  and objected                                                             
for  purposes of  explanation.  He stated  that  when the  original                                                             
Boating  Safety   bill  was  adopted  a  few  years   earlier,  the                                                             
Legislature  understood  that  the  program would  be  100  percent                                                             
federally funded and that no additional  funds would be required to                                                             
administer the program. He communicated that, without affecting the                                                             
federal  contribution, the  State annually  collects  approximately                                                             
$120,000 in user  fees, which are deposited into the  general fund.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde asked which boating safety programs would be impacted                                                             
by the funding reduction.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  clarified that the  program's overall  funding was                                                             
decreased from  the requested $720,000  to $600,0000. He  mentioned                                                             
that, at the $600,000 level, the  program would receive essentially                                                             
flat funding, as its historical  funding levels were $600,000 in FY                                                             
03 and $660,000 each for FY 02 and FY 01.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman questioned the  Amendment's wording as it indicates                                                             
that the entire funding amount of $720,000 would be eliminated.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 9:12 AM / 9:13 AM                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Amendment  to Amendment  #10:  This  amendment specifies  that  the                                                             
funding level for the Boating Safety Programs would be $600,000.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken moved to amend Amendment #10. He concurred that the                                                             
dollar amount specified  in the amendment is in error.  He moved to                                                             
amend the amendment  to retain the "Alaska Boating  Safety (ed 99)"                                                             
component and appropriate $600,000  in federal funds. He noted that                                                             
the language  being altered is located  on page 27, line  15 of the                                                             
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection,  Amendment #10, as amended,  was ADOPTED.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #11: This  amendment adds a "Juneau Public  Health Center                                                             
Heating and Ventilation Upgrades,  Phase 2 (ED 3)" component in the                                                             
Department of Health and Social  Services and appropriates $647,191                                                             
general funds and  $142,066 federal funds on page 24.  Accompanying                                                             
explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The  heating  and ventilation  systems  at the  Juneau  Public                                                             
     Health Center  are on the  edge of failure. Restoring  funding                                                             
     for this Governor's request will complete a phased project for                                                             
     which the legislature has appropriated startup money in recent                                                             
     years.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The current systems at the Public Health Center are inadequate                                                             
     for patient care, staff comfort, and the air quality necessary                                                             
     at a  medical facility. The systems  are in such dire  need of                                                             
     work that they are out of  compliance with building codes. The                                                             
     existing  stopgap measures  are expensive  electric  baseboard                                                             
     heaters  and opening and closing  windows. Should  the systems                                                             
     fail  completely, patient  care  will be  compromised and  the                                                             
     center may face closure.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Because the heating and ventilation systems must be completely                                                             
     replaced, further phasing of this project is not possible.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson moved for adoption of Amendment #11.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson explained  that this amendment  would address  local                                                             
concerns  regarding an  inadequate  and non-compliant  air  quality                                                             
system at the medical facility.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  reminded  that  the State  has  previously  spend                                                             
approximately  $750,000   on  air  quality  improvements   at  this                                                             
facility. He voiced concern that,  were this amendment adopted, the                                                             
total  amount  spent on  addressing  the  system would  exceed  one                                                             
million  dollars.  He  suggested  that perhaps  the  Center  should                                                             
consider relocating  to another facility,  as the current  system's                                                             
expense would  be "extraordinary."  He asked  the Committee  to not                                                             
adopt this amendment.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  referenced  previous comments  made  by  Co-Chair                                                             
Wilken whereby he had specified that the State would capitalize all                                                             
federal  matching   funds.  Senator  Hoffman  continued   that  the                                                             
amendment denotes that $142,000 in federal funds would be available                                                             
for this  funding request. Therefore,  he asked Co-Chair  Wilken to                                                             
comment about not "capturing" these federal funds.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken stated  that he was "in error" when  he voiced that                                                             
the State would match all federal  match money. He stated that even                                                             
capturing $142,000  in federal money  "would not make  this project                                                             
better."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A roll call was taken on the motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Senator Hoffman and Senator Olson                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
OPPOSED:  Senator B. Stevens,  Senator Taylor,  Senator Bunde,  Co-                                                             
Chair Green and Co-Chair Wilken                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The motion FAILED (2-5)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #11 FAILED to be adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Amendment  #12: This  amendment adds  a "Division  of Sport Fish                                                                
Lower Kenai River  Public Use Impact Study" component  and $100,000                                                             
Fish and Game Fund appropriation to the Department of Fish and Game                                                             
and inserts intent language to read as follows.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     It is  the intent of  the Legislature  that the Department  of                                                             
     Fish and  Game enter into an  agreement for services  with the                                                             
     Department of  Natural Resources to conduct a  public analysis                                                             
     on  the impact  of overcrowding  on the lower  Kenai River  by                                                             
     recreational user groups.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     This  project and  accompanying  intent  language, allows  the                                                             
     Department of Fish and Game to contract with the Department of                                                             
     Natural  Resources (Department  of Natural  Resources) for  an                                                             
     analysis  on the  impact of  overcrowding on  the lower  Kenai                                                             
     River by recreational user groups. The previous Administration                                                             
     imposed a  hasty guide moratorium  on the Kenai River  and the                                                             
     current Administration rescinded that moratorium. This project                                                             
     will enable  the Department of  Natural Resources to  seek the                                                             
     input of recreational users  and businesses before any further                                                             
     use restrictions are imposed.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
This amendment  also adds  a "Division  of Wildlife Conservation                                                                
Laboratory  Remodel"  component and  $150,000  Fish  and Game  Fund                                                             
appropriation  for the Department  of Fish  and Game.  Accompanying                                                             
explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     This  project was submitted  by the  Office of Management  and                                                             
     Budget on March  24, 2003. Backup is attached  [not provided.]                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken moved to  adopt Amendment  #12. He commented  that                                                             
this amendment  would result  in a net zero  change in the  capital                                                             
budget. He clarified  that in order to act upon Amendment  #12, the                                                             
Committee  would be  required  to rescind  its  previous action  on                                                             
Amendment  #6  which  specifies  that the  fund  recipient  be  the                                                             
Department of  Natural Resources.  He explained that Amendment  #12                                                             
correctly  specifies  that  the  recipient  of  the  funds  be  the                                                             
Department  of Fish  and  Game. He  clarified  that  the change  is                                                             
required because State statutes require Department of Fish and Game                                                             
funds to be tunneled through the Department of Fish and Game.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
In  order to  act on  Amendment #6,  Co-Chair  Wilken withdrew  his                                                             
motion to adopt Amendment #12.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Without objection, Amendment #12 was WITHDRAWN.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Amendment  #6: This  amendment adds  a "Division  of Parks    Lower                                                             
Kenai River  Public Use Impact  Study" component and $100,000  Fish                                                             
and Game Fund appropriation to  the Department of Natural Resources                                                             
on page 27. Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     This  project allows  the Department  of Natural Resources  to                                                             
     conduct a public analysis on the impact of overcrowding on the                                                             
     lower Kenai  River by recreational  user groups. The  previous                                                             
     administration  imposed a hasty guide moratorium  on the Kenai                                                             
     River   and   the  current   administration   rescinded   that                                                             
     moratorium. This CIP [Capital Improvement Project] will enable                                                             
     the  Department to seek  the input  of recreational users  and                                                             
     businesses before any further use restrictions are imposed.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This amendment  also adds  a "Division  of Wildlife Conservation                                                                
Laboratory  Remodel"  component and  $150,000  Fish  and Game  Fund                                                             
appropriation  to  the Department  of  Fish and  Game  on page  23.                                                             
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     This CIP request was submitted by the Office of Management and                                                             
     Budget on March  24, 2003. Backup is attached  [copy on file.]                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor moved  to rescind Committee action on  Amendment #6.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
There being  no objection,  the action  to adopt  Amendment #6  was                                                             
RESCINDED.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #12 was again before the Committee.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  moved  for  the adoption  of  Amendment  #12.  He                                                             
clarified that  the language in  Amendment #12 specifies  that that                                                             
the funds  be allocated to the  Department of Fish and  Game rather                                                             
than the Department of Natural  Resources as incorrectly identified                                                             
in Amendment #6.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
In response  to a  question  from Senator  Taylor, Co-Chair  Wilken                                                             
stated that the funds  in question are Department of  Fish and Game                                                             
funds monies and  would result "in net zero" affect  on the budget.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Amendment 12 was ADOPTED.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Amendment  #13:   This  amendment  deletes  the  "Municipality   of                                                             
                                                  th                                                                            
Anchorage  Laurel St. Upgrade, Dowling Rd. to 64 Avenue (ED 17-                                                                 
32)" component in  the Grants to Municipalities (AS  37.05.315) BRU                                                             
and $270,000 general  fund appropriation on page 9,  lines 13   16.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
This  amendment  also  inserts  a  "Municipality   of  Anchorage                                                                
Raspberry Road Upgrade, Minnesota Drive to Arctic Boulevard (ED 17-                                                             
32)"  component  in  the  in  the  Grants   to  Municipalities  (AS                                                             
37.05.315) BRU on  page 9, lines 13   16 and appropriates  $270,000                                                             
general funds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     According to  the Municipality of Anchorage, sufficient  local                                                             
     bond  funding  is  available  to complete  the  Laurel  Street                                                             
     Upgrade.  This  amendment would  utilize  $270,000  previously                                                             
     identified for  Laurel Street Upgrade to fund  the State owned                                                             
     portion of the Raspberry Road Upgrade project.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  moved  for  the adoption  of  Amendment  #13  and                                                             
objected  for  explanation.  He stated  that  this is  a  technical                                                             
amendment to redirect funding to upgrade Raspberry Road rather than                                                             
Laurel Street in Anchorage. He noted that the funding element would                                                             
remain constant.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There being no further objection, Amendment #13 was ADOPTED.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #14: This  amendment to the Department of  Transportation                                                             
and Public Facilities budget is outlined in a letter to the co-                                                                 
chairs  of the  Senate  Finance  Committee  and the  House  Finance                                                             
Committee from  Cheryl Frasca, Director,  Office of Management  and                                                             
Budget, dated May 6, 2003, as follows.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Amendment 1                                                                                                                
     Amends the title of the Surface Transportation Program                                                                     
     allocation                                                                                                                 
     From:                                                                                                                      
     "Anchorage Metropolitan Area Transportation System 2004                                                                    
     Preventative Maintenance on State Roads"                                                                                   
     To:                                                                                                                        
     "Anchorage Metropolitan Area Transportation System 2004                                                                    
     Preventative Maintenance State and Local Roads"                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Amendment 2                                                                                                                
     Amends the title of the Surface Transportation Program                                                                     
     allocation                                                                                                                 
     From:                                                                                                                      
     "Fairbanks Metropolitan Area Transportation System 2004                                                                    
     Preventative Maintenance on State Roads"                                                                                   
     To:                                                                                                                        
     "Fairbanks Metropolitan Area Transportation System 2004                                                                    
     Preventative Maintenance State and Local Roads"                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Note: The components are not specified in the committee substitute                                                             
as indicated.]                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  presented Amendment  #14  on behalf  of  Governor                                                             
Murkowski's Administration.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken communicated that  this is a technical amendment in                                                             
that  it would  expand  some  previously  adopted AMATS  and  FMATS                                                             
project  titles to include  preventive road  maintenance for  local                                                             
roads, in addition to State roads.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor asked for clarification  that this is a title change                                                             
rather than a reappropriation of funds.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stevens verified  that the projects  have previously  been                                                             
approved  in the  legislation and  that  this action  "is simply  a                                                             
technical correction."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Amendment #14 was ADOPTED.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #15: This amendment adds a "City of Palmer   Eagle Avenue                                                             
Improvement  (ED   1316)   component  and  $200,000   general  fund                                                             
appropriation to the Grants to Municipalities (AS 37.05.315) BRU on                                                             
page 3, lines 21 and 22.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
This amendment also reduces the  general fund appropriations in the                                                             
following  amounts to  the following  components in  the Grants  to                                                             
Municipalities (AS 37.05.315) BRU.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, lines 23 - 25                                                                                                      
     City of Wasilla    Gravel to Asphalt Road Program  (ED 13-16)                                                              
     Reduce $250,000 to $150,000                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, lines 26  28                                                                                                       
     City of Wasilla  Maintenance Building (ED 13-16)                                                                           
     Reduce $200,000 to $150,000                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, lines 29 and 30                                                                                                    
     City of Wasilla  Sports Arena Equipment (ED 13-16)                                                                         
     Reduce $75,000 to $25,000                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The net impact  of this amendment to CS SB 100  (FIN) is zero.                                                             
     Eagle Avenue is a significant  collector street connecting the                                                             
     Glenn Highway with north Palmer  neighborhoods and the Sherrod                                                             
     School and Swanson  School complex. The street  is presently a                                                             
     gravel  street. This  project will  reconstruct  approximately                                                             
     2,000 feet of Eagle Avenue from the Glenn Highway to the North                                                             
     Valley Way  intersection to a  paved street with  drainage and                                                             
     sidewalk improvements.  This project is important  to the City                                                             
     as a new elementary school  located at the end of Eagle Avenue                                                             
     is opening in the fall of 2003.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green moved to adopt Amendment #15.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for an explanation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  stated that this  amendment would shift  some funds                                                             
from the City of Wasilla to support a street project in the City of                                                             
Palmer.  She  noted  that  the  amendment   is  supported  by  both                                                             
communities and would produce a net zero affect on the budget.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There being no further objection, Amendment #15 was ADOPTED.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #16:  This amendment adds  a "Federally Funded  Landowner                                                             
Incentive Program   Bristol Bay/North  Aleutians project" component                                                             
and $1,642,500 federal funds to  the Department of Fish and Game on                                                             
page 23, line 21.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman moved to adopt Amendment #16.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman spoke  to  the amendment  by  specifying that  the                                                             
amendment would provide  $1.6 million in federal funds  to purchase                                                             
land. He informed  the Committee that several land  user groups are                                                             
participating in this project.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken noted that a $500,000  [unspecified] match would be                                                             
required in  order to receive  $1.6 million  in federal funds  with                                                             
which to  purchase conservation  easements on  private land  in the                                                             
Dillingham/Bristol  Bay region.  He reminded  the Committee  of its                                                             
"considerable  discussions" regarding  the removal of private  land                                                             
from tax rolls and from potential development. He stated that these                                                             
are the primary reasons for his objection to the amendment.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman understood  that the vast majority  of the affected                                                             
land would remain in private ownership.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken agreed, but asserted that the conservation easement                                                             
might hinder future development of the land.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAT  WALKER,  Staff  to Senator  Lyman  Hoffman,  informed  that  a                                                             
coalition comprised  of fishing guides, local Native  Corporations,                                                             
and local  community entities has  been formed in Southwest  Alaska                                                             
with the  intent of  furthering fishing  and sporting endeavors  to                                                             
provide future economic  development opportunities  in the region.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken understood that  a conservation easement "would not                                                             
allow future development of the land."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker responded that the intent of the coalition is to open up                                                             
the region to these activities.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor inquired  as to how  an easement  would affect  the                                                             
viability  of the land;  specifically how  would it "make  property                                                             
better or worse."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker  stated that the coalition  is working to avoid  adverse                                                             
impacts on the land.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor asked  for further information  regarding  possible                                                             
adverse impacts.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker responded that pollution might be an adverse impact.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor stated,  "that development  could  only happen"  if                                                             
private owners chose  to sell the land to developers  or develop it                                                             
themselves.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Walker  clarified  that  the  Southwest  Alaska  coalition  is                                                             
comprised of  a multitude of people  in the area including  private                                                             
landowners. She noted  that a resolution [copy on file]  in support                                                             
of the easement has been provided with the amendment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  stated that, without  these funds, the  land could                                                             
not be purchased and utilized to enhance the economy of the region.                                                             
He asked Ms.  Walker how the status  of the land would  be affected                                                             
were it not purchased.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker responded that she is unsure of the affect.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken understood  that  10,000  acres of  land could  be                                                             
purchased;  however,  he attested  that the  acreage  has not  been                                                             
identified.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde commented  that, "realistically ? the  only industry"                                                             
that could be developed  in this region would be sport  fishing and                                                             
sport hunting. He voiced that granting conservation easements would                                                             
have "little negative impact."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  characterized this  situation as a "policy  call,"                                                             
since this transaction would involve mainly federal funds.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor  asked for  examples  of  the entities  that  would                                                             
provide the matching funds.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Walker stated that, in addition  to the $1.6 million in federal                                                             
funds,   a  $500,000  local   match,  including   money  from   the                                                             
Conservation  Fund,   would  be  required.  She  stated   that  the                                                             
Department of Fish and Game has  been working with the Conservation                                                             
Fund on this issue.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor   asked  for  further  information   regarding  the                                                             
Conservation Fund organization.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken noted  that he could provide information  [copy not                                                             
provided] regarding the Conservation  Fund and the Southwest Alaska                                                             
Coalition to Committee members.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stevens  asked the  current  titleholder  of  the land  in                                                             
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman responded that  the land is private property and he                                                             
assumed that it belonged to a Native corporation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman removed his motion  to adopt Amendment #16 in order                                                             
to obtain further information to present to the Committee.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being  no objection,  the motion to  adopt Amendment  #16 was                                                             
WITHDRAWN.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   stated  that   the  information  regarding   the                                                             
Conservation  Fund  and the  Southwest  Alaska Coalition  would  be                                                             
provided to Members.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken ordered the bill HELD in Committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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